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  1. forum rang 6 benbelegger 26 februari 2012 00:48
    Eigenlijk is het allemaal de schuld van John Public, want die schreeuwen en schoppen tegen de banken aan en stellen zo het bankwezen in een slecht daglicht.

    Announcing the bank's full-year results this week, which showed a £2bn loss, Mr Hester said RBS had been "damaged" by the "noise" surrounding it.

    En Mr.Hester begrijpt dit niet, want ze hadden al een heleboel water in de wijn gedaan door de bonussen te verlagen en het loon van de senior-managers te bevriezen, dan moet het toch een keer genoeg zijn...???

    Ook bij Lloyds (40% van de belastingbetaler) begrijpen ze niets van alle commotie. Terwijl toch ook zíj een kwart van de bonussen hadden afgedaan.

    Ik kan mij niet voorstellen dat de Britse regering alles verder maar op z'n beloop laat. Alleen al in The Guardian meer dan 500 negatieve commentaren na de cijfers van donderdag j.l. Er zijn nog maar heel weinig mensen die de bonussen willen goedpraten of verdedigen. Daar kan een regering niet zomaar omheen en ze zullen radicale maatregelen moeten nemen om deze bank weer in betrouwbaar vaarwater te manoeuvreren.

    Nog een commentaar uit The Telegraph ( want ook daar is men kwaad):

    "Grumpyoldman9
    Today 01:06 PM
    "Mr Hester said RBS had been "damaged" by the "noise" surrounding it".

    No, Mr Hester, RBS has been damaged by the selfish and mercenary attitude of those in the bank still with their snouts in the trough. Four successive years of losses and huge bonuses still being paid. They may be lower than last year but, with base salaries going up, total remuneration is stable. Talk about rewards for failure! How could the board imagine that they would get away with this without adverse comment?

    Not one penny in bonuses or shares should be paid to any employee (including Hester) until the share price recovers to a level above that at which the government bailed out this sad institution.
    "



  2. ErikB 26 februari 2012 22:25

    Vrijdag was het al de opening van vele kranten in Engeland (ik was daar toevallig) zzz.
  3. forum rang 6 benbelegger 2 maart 2012 10:10
    Een beetje rumoer aan de buitenkant, maar we gaan gewoon door op de ingeslagen weg....

    "A memo detailing RBS bankers' pay seen by The Telegraph shows staff earning bonuses worth more than £500,000 will receive 40pc of their payout within four months in the form of a bond award. The remainder will be paid over three years in three equal instalments.
    RBS staff who received a bonus worth up to £25,000 will get all of the payment by June, though £23,000 of the money will come in the form of a bond, too.
    Those earning bonuses worth £100,000 will receive 80pc of their award in June and the remaining 20pc over the next three years.
    RBS said last month it had set aside £390m to pay bonuses to staff in its global banking and markets division, which houses its investment banking activities.
    The bonuses have proved controversial as RBS, which is 82pc owned by the taxpayer, announced a £2bn loss for 2011 as it was forced to write down more bad loans.
    The restrictions placed on the pay of so-called "code staff", defined as employees of the bank working in the most senior and sensitive jobs, are slightly different to ordinary staff.
    Code staff earning bonuses of more than £500,000 will receive 20pc of the payment this month in the form of shares that cannot be sold until September and a further 20pc in June in the form of bonds. The remainder will be paid out over three years - half in bonds and half in shares.
    While the size of RBS's awards place it among the lower payers in the markets the relatively large up-front payments compare favourably with rivals.

    Many banks, including Goldman Sachs, Bank of America Merrill Lynch and UBS, have tougher vesting plans, with staff receiving less of their bonus in the year of its award.
    "

    Een grote zucht, hier is geen kruid tegen gewassen.
    Maar misschien is er toch nog wat aan te doen:

    spandavia
    Yesterday 11:35 AM


    ".... let's face it, the bonus issue is a never ending red herring to keep the focus away from what really happened in banks like RBS and HBOS. It may be uncomfortable for certain bankers to be continually portrayed as public enemy number 1 but that is a small price to pay if it stops real investigation into the real questions that need to be answered.

    As Paul Moore and others, including Alistair Campbell have said, we need a Leveson style inquiry into these banks. And until we have one and while deeper and deeper holes are dug to hide some shocking truths, we will never be able to regain trust in the banking system because the only thing we know for sure is, the rot and corruption that bankrupt the Country, is still lurking in the background ready to do the same again.
    "


    Eens kijken of zijn idee navolging vindt....

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