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  1. [verwijderd] 17 oktober 2003 08:02
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    Associated Press
    EBay Reports Profits Leaped 69 Percent
    Friday October 17, 12:14 am ET
    By Rachel Konrad, AP Business Writer
    EBay Reports Profits Leaped 69 Percent in Third Quarter; Analysts Fear Slower Growth

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Profits surged again at EBay Inc., but its third-quarter performance wasn't strong enough to quell fears among Wall Street analysts that the online auction leader is facing slower growth.
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    The technology giant said Thursday that profits leaped to $103.3 million, or 16 cents per share, in the quarter that ended Sept. 30. In the comparable period last year, eBay showed net profits of $61.0 million, or 11 cents per share.

    That amounted to a 69 percent increase in profits. Meanwhile, revenue surged 84 percent to $530.9 million.

    Still, eBay stock plunged more than 6 percent in the extended session Thursday after closing at $57.50 on the Nasdaq Stock Market.

    Excluding one-time items such as construction or expansion of international customer service centers, eBay reported "pro forma" earnings of 18 cents per share, the consensus estimate of Wall Street analysts. The company had told investors to expect 17 cents per share.

    Executives of the San Jose, Calif.-based company credited double-digit profit and revenue increases to international sales, particularly in Germany, England and South Korea. They expressed confidence that major television and print advertising campaigns in the United States and Germany -- as well as the introduction of eBay gift certificates -- would boost holiday spending, even as some economists are bracing retailers for a Grinch-like Christmas.

    The company's gross merchandise sales, the total value of everything sold on the site, was a record $5.8 billion -- a 53 percent increase from $3.8 billion in the third quarter of 2002.

    Chief financial officer Rajiv Dutta hinted in a conference call with analysts that eBay, known for its financial conservatism, may embark on a buying spree next year with some of its $2.6 billion in cash.

    "We have enormous potential," Dutta said. "Our fundamental business remains very strong, with vibrant metrics. ... We were struck by the number of extremely attractive opportunities that lie ahead."

    Despite such optimism, several prominent investment researchers expressed doubt this week over whether the auction giant can continue its tradition of exceeding expectations. EBay stock has remained relatively impervious to the bursting of the dot-com bubble and remains one of the highest valued technology stocks.

    The newest earnings report, some analysts said, may signal the end of eBay's youthful spurt and the beginning of a slower-growth maturity.

    "The growth curve is flattening out for them," said Gene Alvarez, vice president of technology research at Meta Group. "Their best hope is to get customers who are switching to broadband, maybe reclaim some customers who left because they were frustrated with how slow the site was on dial-up access."

    Analyst Lanny Baker of Salomon Smith Barney Research downgraded eBay from "hold" to "sell" earlier this week, giving the company a price target of $48. He was concerned about whether customers would continue to use eBay Motors, which accounts for about a quarter of eBay's gross merchandise sales.

    EBay CEO Meg Whitman strongly countered those doubts. She said eBay executives would begin working more closely with individual automobile dealers to address the "growing imbalance" of the popular division, which has far more shoppers than vehicles listed.

    More than 37 million people bid, bought or listed items on EBay in the last year. That's a 55 percent increase over the 24.2 million active users in the first three months of 2002.

    Year to date, eBay earned $299.3 million, or 46 cents per share, on revenue of $1.5 billion. In the first three quarters of 2002, the company made $162.9 million, 29 cents per share on sales of $800 million.

    EBay expects revenue as high as $590 million and earnings of up to 21 cents per share in the fourth quarter, $15 million more than previous estimates. EBay expects revenue as high as $2.9 billion and earnings up to 98 cents per share in 2004.

    www.eBay.com


    vrgr.
  2. [verwijderd] 17 oktober 2003 08:05
    een kw van nog geen 60 en het bedrijf groeit als kool in deze barre tijden
    internet is de sector voor de komende jaren

    eBay Profit Up, Stock Falls on Outlook
    Thursday October 16, 9:05 pm ET
    By Lisa Baertlein

    PALO ALTO, Calif. (Reuters) - Online auctioneer eBay Inc. on Thursday posted a third-quarter profit that rose almost 70 percent but offered a forecast for 2004 sales that failed to top Wall Street's bullish expectations, prompting an after-hours sell-off of its stock.
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    Shares in eBay, which have almost doubled over the past year, dropped about 6 percent in after-hours trade in response to the forecast for 38 percent sales growth in 2004.

    That projected gain was seen as conservative given the high hopes that investors have brought to the online seller of everything from collectible cars and designer handbags to Beanie Baby toys and power tools, analysts said.

    San Jose, California-based eBay posted earnings of $103.3 million, or 16 cents per diluted share. That included the impact of eBay's acquisition of Chinese auction Web site EachNet and technology investments related to its global auction business and its PayPal online payments business.

    Excluding items, the company's profit was 18 cents a share. Revenues grew 84 percent to $530.9 million.

    The results matched analysts' average estimate for profits before charges, and topped the average revenue estimate of $519 million, as tracked by Reuters Research, a unit of Reuters Group Plc. But analysts also noted some signs that eBay's spectacular growth is slowing in some key areas, including listings and gross merchandise sales -- the total value of all goods sold.

    "eBay continues to be a very dynamic business that has some challenges over the near and medium term," Pacific Growth Equities analyst Derek Brown said.

    SLOWDOWN IN GERMANY

    A seasonal slowdown in Germany, eBay's strongest overseas franchise, was more pronounced than in the past, Chief Executive Meg Whitman said in a conference call with analysts.

    At the same time, eBay is investing more than anticipated in its business, which dampens its profits.

    Borrowing a page from its U.S. playbook, eBay has launched a television advertising campaign in Germany to spur growth in that market, Whitman said .

    Investors are hypersensitive to any sign of a cooling off in eBay's growth because of its pricey valuation. Shares underwent a two-for-one split this summer and closed at $57.50 on the Nasdaq, up almost 100 percent from a year ago.

    The company's market value is just over $37 billion -- rivaling the most recently reported gross national income of Nigeria and making it almost 50 percent bigger than General Motors Corp., the world's largest automaker.

    The stock also trades at about 59 times next year's projected earnings compared with a ratio of about 18 for the S&P 500.

    Looking ahead, eBay raised its guidance for 2003, saying earnings excluding items could be as high as 72 cents per diluted share, 1 cent higher than its previous guidance. Revenues were seen reaching up to $2.1 billion.

    Adjusting for a litigation charge to second-quarter results, analysts polled by Reuters Research expected 2003 earnings, before items, of 72 cents per share, and revenues of $2.09 billion.

    STILL GROWING

    For 2004, eBay forecast revenues as high as $2.9 billion and earnings, excluding items, of up to 98 cents per share.

    Analysts, on average, expected eBay to post 2004 revenue of $2.89 billion. Profit estimates had ranged from 96 cents a share to $1.14 a share.

    Analysts have grown accustomed to eBay issuing guidance ahead of their own estimates, and investors punish the company and other fast-growing firms when they do not further crank up already high expectations.

    U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray analyst Safa Rashtchy called EBay's 2004 profit forecast "conservative" and said it left the company some room to deliver more.

    Rashtchy agreed that eBay's growth is slowing a bit faster than expected, but noted that it re-accelerated its U.S. business after a similar bump about one year ago.

    "It would be premature to write off eBay as a growth story," he said.

    vrgr
  3. [verwijderd] 17 oktober 2003 09:23
    beste Bart,hun klantenkring is gegroeid met 55% naar 37 miljoen mensen.
    je ziet in het gewone leven ook,dat de mensen alleen maar rommelmarkten aflopen.
    in Frankrijk vieren de brocantes hoogtij,in Nederland de rommelmarkten en hier in Denemarkten de loppenmarkten.
    rijen voor de deuren van gigantische hallen ,de verhuurders van deze hallen verdienen het echte geld,zo is het ook met ebay.
    iedereen op zoek naar leuke spullen en de zg "waardevolle" koopjes.
    ook een vorm van proletarisch winkelen.
    vrgr.
  4. [verwijderd] 17 oktober 2003 09:29
    Het is hogen tyd om terug op de internettrein te springen voor het (helemaal) te laat is.

    Ohra internet van 3 naar 7.5
    Postbank internet van 14 naar 24e

    Wacht niet te lang meer !!!!!

  5. [verwijderd] 17 oktober 2003 11:18
    Wie plaats wil nemen aan de roulettetafel, moet daar niet raar van opkijken.

    Komt er een Ebay boekhoudschandaal, dan is het voor de longs domme pech, geld weg.
  6. [verwijderd] 17 oktober 2003 11:36
    Ik vind e-bay een succesnummer alleen de waardering is wel erg hoog. Waarom niet kopen na een eventuele forse correctie of na een periode waarin de winst en omzet flink door zijn gestegen, maar de koers veel minder stijgt?
  7. [verwijderd] 17 oktober 2003 12:26
    Internet DE sector van de toekomst?

    Dat valt wel mee, slechts een zeer beperkt aantal business modellen zijn toe nu toe succesvol gebleken OP het internet: rommelmarkten, verkopen van CD en boeken, personeelsadvertenties, multiplayer online spellen ...
    En nog veel minder bedrijven maken er echt geld mee. Het blijft een groot probleem om geld te maken OP het internet.

    Veel interessanter is het internet als DESTRUCTIEVE technology.

    Het heeft de muziek industrie al bijna op de knieen gekregen. De opkomst van iTunes (Apple), BuyMusic, MusicMatch, PressPlay en Rapsody bieden eindelijk muziek aan voor betaalbare prijzen.
    Rommelmarkten als ebay en marktplaats hebben als neven effect dat prijsvorming veel transparanter is geworden. Van een Porche handelaar hoorde ik dat het veel moeilijker is geworden om een leuke prijs te vragen, men weet de prijs gewoon van het internet en daar kun je niet te veel van afwijken.
    Papier als drager van informatie begint het nu toch echt te verliezen van zijn digitale tegenhanger. Digitale camera's doen Kodak de nek om, waarom zul je uberhaupt nog foto's printen? (HP in the drain) Manuals zet je toch gewoon op het internet ipv te drukken. De rabobank stuurt me nog steeds afschriften van alle transacties (ik heb al meerdere malen gebeld dat ze daar eens mee moeten ophouden). Zo zijn er talloze voorbeelden van de gevolgen van de digitale revolutie die nu pas door gaan werken.
    Een zeer interessante ontwikkeling is nu Voice over IP (VoIP). O.a. de ontwikkelaars van Kazaa (met Skype) en de oprichter van MP3.com hebben zich hier nu op gestort. Ben benieuwd wie in staat is om de telecom dynosaurussen onderuit te halen met hun achterhaalde "tikken" business. Ik overweeg serieus de KPN mijn huis uit te gooien.

    Het internet biedt overigens ook weer nieuwe kansen. Een leuk voorbeeld is een bedrijf in Nederland met vestigingen in Duitsland en UK. In het oude model hadden alle 3 vestigingen een Exact automatiseringspakket a 25.000 Euro. In het nieuwe model is alleen 1 pakket nodig met 2 extra taal modules (totaal 35.000 Euro). Alle vestigingen kunnen mbv VPN over het internet bij dat pakket. De volgende stap is mbv VoIP de telefoon kosten drastisch te verlagen.

    De gemene deler in al deze voorbeelden is dat de kosten flink omlaag. Mijn visie is dat het internet, China als goedkope fabriek en de vergrijzing deflatie zal veroorzaken op veel gebieden. Ik verwacht daarom dat veel bedrijven omzetdalingen gaan rapporteren in de toekomst.

    Zomaar wat gedachten,

    EIB
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