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1. voda 12 december 2016 17:43

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2. Jobo 1956 12 december 2016 17:48

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   Theo3 schreef op 12 december 2016 17:39:

   De rijdende rechter heeft gesproken rechter jobo
   

   En zo zit het ! ;-))
3. Donaldus 12 december 2016 17:53

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   Ondergetekende houd een plukje AM in portefeuille, wachtende op de grote correctie.
4. [verwijderd] 12 december 2016 18:00

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   Donald J. Tromp schreef op 12 december 2016 17:53:

   Ondergetekende houd een plukje AM in portefeuille, wachtende op de grote correctie.
   

   Waarom dan niet alles verkopen?? Ik heb een pluk AM omdat ik toch hoop op een stijging, dat lijkt me logischer... Zodra ik echt een daling verwacht ga ik short!
   
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   Ben blij dat ik er vrijdag ben uitgestapt, reageert niet zoals gebruikelijk op hogere olieprijs, heb het gevoel dat ze nog wel een stuk verder lager gaan, ik blijf ff aan de zijlijn, hou ook aegon in de gaten
6. Donaldus 12 december 2016 18:06

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   Juristas schreef op 12 december 2016 18:00:

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   Waarom dan niet alles verkopen?? Ik heb een pluk AM omdat ik toch hoop op een stijging, dat lijkt me logischer... Zodra ik echt een daling verwacht ga ik short!
   
   

   Wil bij het uitblijven van een correctie niet volledig de boot missen. Ik heb nog een kwart van de aandelen en heb daarnaast veel geduld :)
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   AK Steel, Steel dynamics, US Steel inmiddels allemaal in her rood nu, AM echter nog wel in het groen, benieuwd of het groen blijft, anders morgen grote kans op rode opening.
8. [verwijderd] 12 december 2016 18:34

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   Wie weet wat er voor 15hr gebeurde? ik zie bij de degiro op de AEX een korte piek richting 1413 punten
   
   
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    haha, zou kunnen, maar wel opvallend...
11. Duikert 12 december 2016 19:47

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    Net als vrijdag, net als vandaag, ook nu sukkelt de koers langzaam naar beneden. Ik verkocht vandaag op €7,75. Helaas kan ik er niet op ieder moment van de dag bij zijn. Daarom was ik zo laat met verkopen. Morgen ook weer een dag dat ik niet vaak kijken kan. Kooporder op €7,60 misschien? Hoe ver zal ie doorzakken?
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    ik denk volgende week onder 7 (hoop het niet)
    
    
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    daghandelaarof tochniet schreef op 12 december 2016 20:31:

    ik denk volgende week onder 7 (hoop het niet)
    
    

    Waarom een zo sterke daling?
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    Home / Commodities / Commodity News / EU upsets China with new steel price investigation
    
    EU upsets China with new steel price investigation
    in Commodity News 12/12/2016
    
    The European Union has launched a new investigation into whether Chinese manufacturers are selling steel into Europe at unfairly low prices, angering China which says Europe’s steel problems are due to the region’s own economic weakness.
    The European Commission has determined that a complaint brought by EU steel makers’ association Eurofer regarding certain corrosion resistant steel merits an investigation, the EU’s official journal said on Friday.
    The Commission also said it would start another anti-dumping investigation into certain cast iron products from China and India as well as determining whether existing duties on Chinese steel seamless pipes and tubes should continue for another five years.
    The EU has already imposed duties on a wide range of steel grades to counter what EU steel producers say is a flood of steel sold at a loss due to Chinese overcapacity and partly the cause of 5,000 British job losses.
    A China Commerce Ministry official said Beijing attached a “high degree of attention and concern” to the case and that Europe’s steel problems were due to its own weak economic growth.
    Wang Hejun, the head of the trade remedies investigation department, said in a statement on the ministry’s website that Europe should rationally analyze its steel industry’s problems.
    “It should not adopt mistaken trade protectionist measures that limit fair market competition,” he said.
    The EU investigation begins just days before the 15th anniversary of China’s accession to the World Trade Organization, when the country says new trade defense rules are supposed to kick in.
    Until now, the EU has been able to compare Chinese prices with those of another country – in the current case Canadian prices. But, Beijing insists this should no longer be possible from Dec. 11.
    If the United States, European Union, and other WTO members begin to take Chinese prices as fair market value, it will be much harder for them to challenge China’s cheap exports.
    The European Commission proposed last month a new way of treating China, but its proposals still await approval from the EU’s 28 members and the European Parliament.
    Aegis Europe, a group of European industry federations including Eurofer, said there was no legal requirement to change the way the EU treated China on Dec. 11 and that EU’s partners the United States and Japan would not be doing so.
    G20 governments recognized in September that steel overcapacity was a serious problem. China, the source of 50 percent of the world’s steel and the largest steel consumer, has said the problem is a global one.
    The EU currently has 40 anti-dumping and anti-subsidy measures in place, 18 of which are on products from China. Twenty more investigations related to steel are still ongoing, including three for which provisional duties are in place.
    Source: Reuters (Reporting By Philip Blenkinsop in Brussels, Yawen Chen and Nicholas Heath in Beijing,; Editing by Greg Mahlich and Jane Merriman)
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15. [verwijderd] 12 december 2016 20:35

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    Why Steel Industry Suppliers SunCoke Energy, Cliffs Natural Resources, and Teck Resources Rose As Much As 61% in November
    
    By Reuben Gregg Brewer, Motley Fool
    December 12, 2016 | 10:44AM
    
    Image source: Cliffs Natural Resources
    
    What happened
    
    Cliffs Natural Resources (NYSE: CLF) rose over 61% in November, leading the way for companies that supply the steel industry. Suppliers Teck Resources Limited (NYSE: TCK) , SunCoke Energy, Inc. (NYSE: SXC) , and SunCoke Energy Partners, L.P. (NYSE: SXCP) rose 17%, 12%, and 14%, respectively.
    
    So what
    
    For all four of these companies, November was really best thought of as two discrete time periods. The first lasted from the start of the month to the 8th, when gains for Teck, SunCoke Energy, and SunCoke Energy Partners were in the low single digits. Between the 8th and the 30th, meanwhile, the gains pushed the trio's gains up over 10%. Even Cliffs, where there were other issues pushing a larger positive sentiment shift, saw a huge improvement in stock performance after the 8th.
    
    Nov. 8, of course, was the day of the U.S. presidential election. With Trump the president-elect, investors in steel and related companies were clearly reacting to his strong words about protecting the domestic steel market and pushing infrastructure spending. So in many ways, the performance of this quartet was helped along by outside political factors.
    
    What actually transpires once Trump is sworn in, though, might not be what people expect. He has to work through the political process, and spending takes time to develop. Thus, there is a risk to the quick rise in these stocks that investors need to keep in the back of their minds. After all, it wouldn't be the first time a politician fell short of his campaign promises if Trump can't deliver on his pre-election stumping.
    
    CLF Total Long Term Debt (Quarterly) data by YCharts
    
    That's why it's important to single out Teck and Cliffs, where positive company-specific news was also at play. Cliffs reported earnings at the end of October, updating investors on its financial state. The company lost money again, but it trimmed its debt by roughly $500 million year over year. And, perhaps more important, it redeemed all of a 2018 note in the third quarter that had been a material near-term concern for investors. The shares of iron ore-focused Cliffs rose smartly after that release, with the election of Trump basically adding fuel to an already raging fire.
    
    Teck, meanwhile, reported decent earnings in late October. But they simply showed continued improvement, something investors had probably been expecting based on the relatively muted gains following the release. However, the shares really started to move toward the end of the month, when the company announced that it had agreed to acquire the 70% of AQM Copper it didn't already own. And at the same time it updated investors on its steelmaking coal sales, where the prices it expects to receive will be higher than previously projected. That Teck feels confident enough in its turnaround to buy out AQM is a good sign, backed up by the fact that it effectively pushed guidance higher.
    
    That said, there was some company-specific news about SunCoke and SunCoke Energy Partners, too. In this case, SunCoke announced its intent to buy SunCoke Energy Partners at the end of October. So this pair is now tied at the hip in more ways than one. SunCoke offered only a 5% premium in the all-stock deal, so no huge gains to be had there. Ultimately, an improving steel market was probably a bigger factor, overall, in this pair's November gain.
    
    Teck employees with a massive mining truck. Image source: Teck Resources.
    
    Now what
    
    Cliffs and Teck both have good things happening within their businesses. And on that score, investors have rightly rewarded the shares. While SunCoke's big news is probably a good thing, at least for simplification purposes, it doesn't really speak to improving fundamentals. And until the deal is consummated, the two will probably trade in lockstep with each other.
    
    That said, you can't overlook the bigger-picture impact of the presidential election. The performance of each of these companies got a boost from this outside event, which many expect to have a positive impact on the group's core steelmaking customers. But, unlike the underlying improvements noted here, you can't really count on Trump's pre-election wish lists to come true. In other words, it's better to focus on fundamentals here than get too caught up in what might, or might not, happen when Trump takes office next year
16. Kogovus 12 december 2016 20:35

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    daghandelaarof tochniet schreef op 12 december 2016 20:31:

    ik denk volgende week onder 7 (hoop het niet)
    
    

    Goed onderbouwd......
    
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    misschien overbodig maar ik plaats het maar voor de zekerheid
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    Flat Steel Market to Reach $757 Billion by 2026 - Increase in Infrastructure Investments - Key Vendors are Arcelormittal, Essar Steel & JSW Steel - Research and Markets
    December 12, 2016 02:01 PM Eastern Standard Time
    DUBLIN--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Research and Markets has announced the addition of the "Flat Steel Market by Type, End User, and Region - Global Forecast to 2026" report to their offering.
    
    “Flat Steel Market by Type, End User, and Region - Global Forecast to 2026”
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    The flat steel market is projected to reach USD 757.15 billion by 2026, at a CAGR of 6.7% from 2016 to 2026. Increasing urban population, rapid industrialization, and increase in infrastructure investments are driving the demand for flat steel products. However, volatile prices of raw materials are expected to restrict market growth.
    
    Plates are widely used for heavy and industrial activities such as construction of buildings, bridges, dams, ships, offshore structures, hydro power stations, storage tanks, boilers, pressure vessels, and machinery. Growing investments in building & infrastructure in emerging economies is expected to propel market growth for the plate segment of the flat steel market. In addition, introduction of high strength steel plate grades has increased the use of steel plates in the automotive sector.
    
    The Asia-Pacific flat steel market is anticipated to grow at the highest CAGR between 2016 and 2026. Growth of this market can be attributed to the increasing demand for flat steel from China and India. China, with growth in construction and automotive industries, is a major consumer of flat steel in the Asia-Pacific region. The India flat steel market is expected to grow at the highest CAGR during the forecast period.
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    koers is te snel gestegen op termijn zeker verder up maar het feit dat ze nu achter blijven bij de sterke stijging van de olieprijs is een waarschuwing, hele sector trouwens down
20. Kogovus 12 december 2016 20:51

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    daghandelaarof tochniet schreef op 12 december 2016 20:42:

    koers is te snel gestegen op termijn zeker verder up maar het feit dat ze nu achter blijven bij de sterke stijging van de olieprijs is een waarschuwing, hele sector trouwens down
    

    Kijk, dat is nu onderbouwen. Je hebt gelijk, snel gestegen en voorzichtigheid voorop. Maar je weet het nooit, wellicht blijven we gewoon tussen de 7,50 en 8 inhangen, heb ik ook vrede mee. Lager mag ook maar heeft nu even niet mijn voorkeur.